Welcome back to I'm a Software Engineer ~ What Next? The podcast for devs figuring out their next move. Hosted by James Wilson and Matt Sinclair, we talk honestly about what it takes to build a meaningful career in tech.
So you're off to work at Anthropic? What happens now that you have a job at one of the world's premier AI companies?
In this episode, we cover:
- The remarkably compressed career of one of the new wave of AI-powered software engineers
- What it's like to build multiple successful startups before the age of 21
- What someone at the cutting edge of AI thinks the future of AI holds for programmers, and humanity
Whether you're applying for your next engineering role or hiring your next dev, this one's got real talk, practical advice, and a few rants.
🎧 44 minutes. Zero fluff. Tune in now.
⏱️ Chapters
- 0:00 Intro: the retro arcade t-shirt and hunting coins in the return slot
- 0:42 Meet the guest: 21, a $1M mobility platform, an AI social app, and now Anthropic
- 1:42 The magic telephone reversed: achievements are fleeting, stay anchored
- 3:31 How he got here: electronic music, guitar and learning how to learn
- 5:31 The Ivy League rejection and the opportunity at his doorstep in Cape Town
- 7:52 Loop: digitising South Africa's lawless, cash-based taxi industry
- 9:34 Leaving Loop, the YC attempt that didn't feel right, and another startup
- 12:28 Patterns in zero to one: Peter Thiel, and founders who know the industry
- 14:10 Picking a co-founder: it's a marriage, so find someone relentless
- 15:53 The R word: resilience, and "fall down seven times, stand up eight"
- 17:24 Why London, and the wild card: Humanloop over a 200-person scale-up
- 19:41 Off to Anthropic's API team, and how much do its engineers use Claude Code?
- 21:40 AI tooling: great for zero-to-one boilerplate, used sparingly to stay sharp
- 23:12 "Mass replacement is inevitable": advice to someone ten years younger
- 26:07 The carpenter and the circular saw: programmers become hypervisors
- 27:54 Lovable and the lesson of SQL: the LLM becomes an appliance
- 29:12 The Jagged Frontier: negative returns, and jetpacks flown into walls
- 31:31 Like Microsoft at 50 people: aspirations for 5 years at Anthropic
- 33:21 Domains for AI: healthcare, supplementing labour rather than replacing it
- 36:05 Anthropic has taste: Steve Jobs, AI safety and delaying releases
- 37:33 How worried are you? Too many players, UBI and a post-work world
- 40:03 The next printing press: AI as the biggest boundary condition yet
- 41:59 Entrepreneurs: a whole business from one desk, an NDA in 2 minutes
- 43:00 Wrap-up: democratising intelligence and 10 extra IQ points for everyone
🔗 Links
🗒️ Show Notes
- Anthropic
- Navigating the Jagged Technological Frontier: Field Experimental Evidence of the Effects of AI on Knowledge Worker Productivity and Quality
- Gary's Economics
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